Actor and writer Elena Mazzon
Actor and writer Elena Mazzon talks about the obscure history that inspired her new play, compares acting and writing and shares what she likes to watch at the theatre.
Your play, The Popess: Instructions for Freedom, is based on a movement back in 13th-century Italy, which challenged the male-dominated Catholic Church. How did you come across the story?
Elena Mazzon: Accidentally, although I don’t believe in accidents. I was bored during lockdown, and I was trying to make sense of the major arcana and minor arcana – I do tarot readings with friends.
I was very interested in the archetypes and flicking through the booklet for the Rider-Waite [Tarot], and when I got to the second card, which is the High Priestess, the story was unbelievable. I didn’t know anything about it.
This woman from Milan, called Maifreda Visconti, a relative of a very powerful family at that time in the 1300s, was the inspiration for this card, for the Visconti tarot deck, which was made a century and a half later.
I’m from Italy and I’ve never heard of it, none of my friends knew about it and I was like, ‘how come’?
And I started delving into it and researching, and I thought it was fascinating. And it felt like the veil of the High Priestess was just the veil of knowledge had been lifted, and I had to put it out there for other people to know about it.
What was the process for turning this historic story into a play?
EM: That was a bit tricky initially, because I didn’t know how to put it all together. Everything that I wrote and the research, which is really minimal – there’s not much you can find.
But then I worked with Colin Watkeys, the deviser and director of the show. We worked together on another show before, and he specialises in solo shows and is fantastic.
He can help you take everything out of your hat very easily. And he uses cards as well. Sometimes it’s the structure of the tarot card. Sometimes just cards to talk about the characters and give them qualities and levels of qualities, low and high.
Working with him is very smooth and liberating. So it was actually a really, really nice process.
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